Vatican II Never Said That

It seems appropriate to mention that when the argument is advanced against some new novelty in the Catholic Church, whether it be liturgical or doctrinal, the method of defense for orthodoxy or tradition and to yet remain in good stead with the conciliar church is to say that “Vatican II never said that”.  And, indeed, Vatican II probably never did say that. But Vatican II never said the opposite either.

And there in lies the caveat.  “Time bombs” inserted in Vatican II documents were designed as such; time bombs to be detonated at a later time in a later more modernistic atmosphere.  A recent issue of Catholic Family News has an article entitled: “The Personal Diaries of Msgr. Joseph Clifford Fenton – The Vatican Years” by Robert J. Siscoe. Quoting from the article, “Msgr. Fenton received his doctorate of Sacred Theology from the Angelicum in Rome and wrote his dissertation under the great Thomist, Fr. Reginald Garrigou-Lagrange.  Msgr. Fenton was a peritus for Cardinal Ottaviani at the Second Vatican Council.” His personal diaries were just recently made public.

Some of the quotes from Msgr. Fenton’s diary are as follows: Oct. 19, 1962 – “I started to read the material on the Liturgy, and I was shocked at the bad theology”; Oct. 27, 1962 – “As far as I can see the Church is going to be very badly hurt by this Council. The opposition between the liberals and the loyal Catholics has been brought out into the open.”; Oct. 31, 1962 – “Being at the Council is, of course, the great experience of my life.  But at the same time, it has been a great disappointment.  I never thought the episcopate was so liberal.  This is going to mark the end of the Catholic religion as we know it”; Oct. 19, 1962 – “… since the death of St. Pius X the Church has been directed by  weak and liberal Popes, who have flooded the hierarchy with unworthy, stupid men”; Nov. 23, 1962 – “If I did not believe in God, I would be convinced that the Catholic Church was about to end”; Nov, 25, 1962 – “Some other people believe what I have thought for several months, that John XXIII is definitely a lefty.  This nonsense that he is ‘deceived’ or ‘mal servite’ is disgraceful.  He is the boss.”; Oct. 28, 1965 – “The part on ecumenism is a joke.  It reads like a 19th Century text, or a second-rate article in a leftist magazine.”



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